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A "Dr" of highly dubious origin. Dr. Barry Burns insists that he is a master trader living in a castle. Yet, he refuses to provide even the most minimal shred of evidence that supports his claims of amazing trading successes. Perhaps day trading is not for you? The good doctor can also teach you to be a master MLM/Pyramid Hustler, selling all manner of amazing oils, potions, and elixirs guaranteed to solve all of life's ills. A hardcore internet marketer looking to appeal to the simple, naive, and financially desperate. In my opinion, he should be avoided.

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Pros: Very good marketing. Low pressure sales pitch. Marginally useful videos on technical analysis.
Cons: Trading educator refuses to show any proof whatsoever of prior trading success. Educator also has a long and storied career as a pyramid salesman. Claims to be a PhD and prefers the title of Doctor. However, the PhD appears to be of the mail order variety.

Thanks for reading today’s review of Top Dog Trading

What is Top Dog Trading? Top Dog Trading is what I would consider to be a “legacy” trading educator. These are trading educators that have been around for at least 10 years. The owner of Top Dog Trading is a guy by the name Dr. Barry Burns. Top Dog Trading is one of the more seasoned educators on the trading educational guru scene. He can often be found giving investment advise on Online Traders Central, involved in many co-promotions with other long time trading educators, is listed as an “expert” and a “master trader” on many promotional websites like Trader Kingdom, and he even has a book titled, “Trend Trading for Dummies“. The Top Dog Trading educational package includes the following items:

Foundation Course #1: Precision Trading Cycle Tops and Bottoms $297, Foundation Course #1 and #2 Momentum and Catching the Big Moves $495 for both. In addition to the video course, Barry is also offering a $99 a month video package. The video package includes three special videos each week that give you secret insights into how the markets are currently moving in relation to the Top Dog Trading course.

On the first week of January 2016, I made several attempts to reach out to Dr. Barry Burns. Using an alias, what I really wanted to discover was whether Dr. Barry Burns is really a trader, or is he just another internet marketer selling a bunch of rehashed technical indicators to the naive and uninformed. The first and most obvious question that I had for Barry is what is his own individual trading performance? Does he have a track record? Nowhere on his website is any mention of trading performance. He simply refers to himself as an international expert trader,  master trader, or highly acclaimed expert trader . After repeated attempts to discover just how well Barry trades, he finally started ignoring my requests. Next, I used different aliases and came at him at different angles and postures. Once again, he blew me off. Finally, on February 15, I revealed myself as Emmett Moore with TradingSchools.Org and explained to him in very clear language that this review would be read by thousands of people. That he should be completely open and honest with me about his own personal trading, and to please disclose his own individual trading performance. In a nutshell, should this guy be giving investment advice to the masses?

Of course, Dr. Barry Burns simply refused to provide any performance history whatsoever. He is of the attitude that by showing me his trading results, that this is somehow illegal and that he might get into some sort of trouble. Of course, this is a pure hogwash/baloney sandwich and there is no law or rule that says that a private party cannot show another private their trading performance. It is true that he may have concerns about privacy, however he can simply redact an annualized trading account statement and screen share it with me. By viewing a redacted brokerage statement, I can go back to my audience and declare that this guy is real. But with Dr. Barry Burns, that wasn’t happening. He is of the attitude that people must simply trust him and hope that he is telling the truth. But he did assure me that he is indeed a true master trader, and that he was considering joining a trading competition so that the world can witness his greatness. He also directed me to his testimonials page where I could see with my own eyes just how emphatic his students feel about his trading.

The websites of Dr. Barry Burns

One of the things that I like to look at is the marketing tactics of a trading vendor. Some of these trading vendors have dozens of different websites offering all manner of trading wisdom. Dr. Barry Burns is certainly part of this class of promoter. Dr. Barry Burns currently maintains the following websites: TopDogTrading.com, DayTradingCoach.org, BestDayTrading.net, HighProfitCandlestickPatterns.com, StockMarketDojo.com, TopDogTradingVideos.com, TradingSuccessStory.com, FibonacciRetracement.net, HowToTrade.Org and whole host of other websites that would take three afternoons to list. In addition to the individual websites that Barry uses to promote his day trading awesomeness, he also maintains a YouTube channel which has a healthy audience, eager to hear his trading wisdom.

It appears that Dr. Barry Burns main ambition and marketing tactic is to appeal to the opportunity seeker, or the person looking to make easy money at home from a computer. At no time does he ever offer any proof that he has ever traded successfully. This appears to be all marketing magic. The more I looked at all of these trading websites, my intuition was that this guy is probably a career network marketer/pyramid hustler.

There are a lot of parallels between network marketing, pyramid marketing schemes and day trading. In fact, many of the trading educators on the scene today have a long history selling magic oils and potions from a network marketing scheme. Dr. Barry Burns is certainly no exception.

Dr. Barry Burns the network marketer

Dr. Barry Burns

As seen on CBS, FOX, NBC, ABC, and lives in a Castle? Sounds like a fairy tale.

In addition to being able to teach a person how to become a full time professional day trader, Dr. Barry Burns can also can teach a person how to make big bucks at MLM or Multi Level Marketing. Some of the his websites are quite interesting: MLMBlitz.com, and MlmNetworkMarketingLeads.com where Barry reveals how to earn over $100k per year, part time from home. He also claims to be multimillionaire from network marketing.

In addition to MLM websites, Dr. Barry Burns also maintains EffectiveMLM.com where he claims to currently earn two, six figure annual incomes working from his castle in Los Angeles Ca. Using an alias, I sent Barry an email about his various and many multi level marketing opportunities. I was really curious about his claims of living in a castle in Los Angeles. That sounded interesting and I was hoping for some proof of the castle and the multiple six figure incomes, but he simply refused my requests. Really, I just wanted to see his castle.

Dr. Barry Burns: Provider of  amazing health products

Perhaps you are not interested in Barry’s magical trading methods? Well no problem because the good doctor has a whole variety of other Dr Barry's Magic Oilamazing products that apparently can cure just about any illness. Lets take a look at some of Barry’s magical medicinal’s. Having a problem with coronary artery disease, cancer, respiratory disorders, accidental injuries, cirrhosis of the liver, and suicide? Well Barry has a magical oil named SunSet that contains a special variety of roots and herbs that can help cure all of these conditions. A person can either eat the magical oil, or rub the oil into any problem areas. All problems promptly solved.

Dr. Barry's Cure AllPerhaps you need to stop the aging process? You are tired of getting older? Well Barry has a another special oil that cures this problem as well. In addition to stopping the aging clock, this special oil reduces appetite, gives you higher levels of energy, lets you sleep better, cures skin conditions, removes unwanted fat, increases muscle mass, and grows back your hair. But remember, this must be either eaten or rubbed liberally onto any problem areas.

Did you know that your body is infested with parasites? These parasites are actively stealing your life force and destroying your bodies autoimmune system. Well no longer because the good doctor has another magical oil that was extracted from the Lapacho Tree, which is found hidden deep in the ozone pure jungles of Dr. Barry's cure all oil and trading magiccentral America. The “highly advanced Inca’s used it as their primary medicine” and boy does is cure some major illnesses like regulating blood sugar levels, eliminates all pain, strengthens cellular structure, is an antibiotic, an anti microbial, and cures erectile dysfunction.

Having a problem losing weight? Don’t like to exercise? Well the good Dr. Barry Burns has yet another amazing solution for you, its called a Herbal Body Wrap. This special, secret, and proprietary blend of 27 herbs, minerals, and sea vegetation will immediately melt away those unwanted pounds, while simultaneously detoxifying the body of any unwanted toxins and free radicals. Many customers are reporting amazing results,

“After my sixth body wrap, I recently went to buy my brother some cigarettes. I am a 35-year-old mother. Besides having lost almost a size of clothes in inches, when I went to buy cigarettes recently, the guy behind the counter looked at me very closely, paused a moment, then told me that he Dr Barry Burns amazing body wrapscouldn’t sell me any cigarettes. I thought perhaps he was out of my brand. But when I inquired why, he said, “Ma’am, I can’t sell cigarettes to anyone under 18.” Then, when I assured him that I was over 18 and showed him my driver’s license, he said, “Well, all that proves to me is that you look a lot like your 35 year old sister!” Well, was I flattered! His boss finally forced him to sell me the cigarettes, because legally, he had to because of my ID, but he wasn’t happy to do it. This is the best testimonial to the changes that the Body Wraps have brought!”
C. J.

Of course, I do not expect you to simply believe what I am writing. In fact, you should do your own research. Dr. Barry Burns claims to be a 6 figure earner selling these products, you can find a complete list of these products, and many more at the Life Force International website or LiquidHealthProducts.com

Dr Barry Burns: Doctor of what?

Whenever a trading educator starts using the moniker, “Doctor or PhD” the bullshit meter starts bouncing in the red zone. In the past year of writing this blog, I have yet to find a doctor/trading educator with authentic credentials from an accredited university. However, I have found plenty of mail order PhD’s and bullshit fakers with every sort of outrageous credentials. With Dr. Barry Burns, it appears that he is PhD is of the mail order variety.

Dr. Barry Burns claims to hold a Doctorate in Hypnotherapy and is a certified Nuero Linguistic Practitioner. I was really curious about this Doctorate in Hypnotherapy and so I Google searched, in hopes of finding out what it takes to get one of these PhD’s. It turns out that anyone can get this PhD. All you need is couple of hundred dollars and a mailing address for your official looking diploma. There is no prerequisite or undergrad degree requirements. The whole degree is based upon your life experiences and self reported successes.

Personally, I find these diploma mills outrageous and egregious frauds. And I find it even more outrageous that someone like “Dr” Barry Burns calls himself a doctor and is selling magic oils that supposedly can cure just about every know ailment known to mankind. So what does all of this have to do with Dr. Barry Burns day trading educational courses?

In my opinion, looking at the big picture of Dr. Barry Burns, this guy appears to a complete and total charlatan. He claims to be a master trader and highly successful, yet he is unwilling to show any proof whatsoever. He has a long history of selling some seriously shady products in the charlatan infested MLM/Pyramid marketing industry. And, he prefers that everyone call him Doctor Barry Burns, when in reality this PhD in hypnosis is of highly dubious origin. How anyone could give this guy a nickel  for health advice, or financial advice is simply amazing.

Oh, and lets not forget that he claims to live in a Castle. A Castle in Los Angeles, Ca? This sure sounds like a fairy tale to me.

Wrapping Things Up

Thanks for reading this review. I think most of my readers certainly did not need this review in order to make an educated guess on this dude. Its obvious to me that this guy is a really creative marketer. However, the more I dug around and discovered his amazing health products, it just made me laugh and I could not resist writing about him. In the zany, wacky world of trading educators, this Barry Burns is certainly one of the more colorful characters.

Oh, and Barry, when you read this. I would be more than happy to write you a new review. But you need to provide some evidence that you actually trade. Heck, you dont even need to be very good at trading! Give me something that I can see, in a private viewing. I will gladly come back to the audience, eat humble pie, and proclaim your greatness to the world.

Well that’s it for now. Don’t forget to leave your comments below. Thanks for reading.

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Rob B
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Rob B
6 months 14 days ago
Man oh man does this review hit home. When I first started to day trade a long time ago, Top Dog was the 1st education package I paid money for. Actually if you consider joining Big Mike an educational package, Top Dog was my 2nd. I had forgotten all about good old Barry, one of the first vendors to con me. Gosh Emmett, this review brings up repressed memories. Why did I buy it? Well I was clueless and one of those fools and it was cheap compared to other trading education out there and it had good review. Heck… Read more »
Stray Dog
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Stray Dog
6 months 14 days ago
True confessions time. I purchased Barry’s foundations 1 & 2 package and his swing trade course. I got the bundle for $499. Here’s how I look at Barry. If I could swindle 5 nice old couples out of their life savings, say $200,000 per couple and get away with it, I wouldn’t do it because it would destroy the lives of 10 people. But if I could con 100,000 people out of $10 each there’s a pretty good chance that I would do that, because what’s $10? Not the end of the world, that’s for sure. Barry’s in the second… Read more »
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Todd
6 months 14 days ago
Brilliant marketer with the “Dr” moniker (that is so smart to do this to establish credibility) to the price of his repackaged common junk found anywhere and finally, the price point. Guys like this, the internet marketing scammers, know exactly what they are doing with the price point, where you can make a few videos that last a few hours so as to appear to have some value, and sell it over and over and over again for a few hundred bucks. Get 100 sales a month or more, you are living really nice. On top of that he has… Read more »
DavidR
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DavidR
6 months 14 days ago

“selling magic oils”

Wow, a real life snake oil salesman, haha. I didn’t those existed anymore.

sam
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sam
6 months 14 days ago
Boy oh boy. My confession time too. Similar to RobB, topdog was my first trading vendor who swindled me. I too bought the advanced course after the basic. I tried all the “five energies”/(actually common lagging indicators and typical timeframe watching) and watched his method fail to work right off the bat. I watched his videos as he scrolled back and forth with after the fact comments. On occasion he had “live trading” videos and he habitually said “scratch” for the losers, where he had no winners on the right edge of the chart. Sure, Ross of Warrior Trading and… Read more »
Ben
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Ben
6 months 13 days ago

I like how you have honesty for your scammers!
Hahaha seriously?
I would suggest instead of honest, a creativity meter!
You seam impressed with human endeavors and have a soft spot for the young fraudesters, even if it involves scamming others out of their easy ‘dumb money’

hahaaa.. noobs will be noobs.. and losers will be losers.. these scammers at least provide entertainment or ‘education’ hahaha
So creativity is important!

luv ya Emmett, keep exposing the bullshat fiction!

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doReyMiFahDaDiDoDo.....
6 months 13 days ago

haha, want more? topdogtraidng has the same music they did over five years ago. replaying it over and over can be “hypnotherapeutic”. The last chord of the “classical” sounding motif summarizes all the material,… a duhhhdd.

Ben
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Ben
6 months 13 days ago

wow that’s an old school midi classic

ElaineMDG
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ElaineMDG
6 months 13 days ago
This is hilarious-after receiving a detailed email from this guy on how he would GIVE me 5 FREE Forex Educational videos-I immediately came here-and kooky what the top entry is!! THANK YOU EMMETT for everything you do!! Perhaps it’s my age; but I knew when I decided to learn this trade, (after no longer being able to practice medicine or research), that trading in general, is a ripe area for scams of ALL sorts!! Since I decided to concentrate on FOREX, I’ve been spending a LOT of time over at Forex Peace Army; and it never ceases to amaze me… Read more »
sam
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sam
6 months 12 days ago
Thanks for your story ElaineMD. Yes, some of those old “official” sounding trading vendor website organizations are hubs for disseminating emails or phone numbers to a web of affiliate scam vendors. Oldtimer affiliate hubs such as “moneyshow”, “DTI”, “OTA”, etc. And can’t get the name “John Ondercin” out of my head when skimming my spam email anymore for example. Then you have the newer generation of this decade like Syke’s plant review farm investimonials or rather should be called “investi-scamma” here. I eventually made up a “vendor reply email” which is still flooded with thousands of spam email from afflitiates… Read more »
Arch
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Arch
6 months 13 days ago

This one actually is funny … it was very amusing to read actually.
Is it me? or does this seems allmost unreal?

Rob B … i guess i´m not the only fool in the worlsd 🙂

Rob B
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Rob B
6 months 13 days ago
Arch, I open admit that I was fooled in the past and I will even say I still get fooled. Even though I day trade my method, I am always looking for new ideas especially if it will bring me diversification. I still check out various trading rooms / trade services. These days I pick ones that at least claim they are trading live and showing their brokerage statement. So far everyone of those I have tried has been a scam. They are all a combination of inaccurately recording their results, making calls after the entry or the stop loss… Read more »
DavidR
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DavidR
6 months 11 days ago
I’ve honestly never found a “Trade Room” I would trust for actual trades. I certainly can’t think of any that meet your requirements. I’ve also never heard of a great number of the guys some people have wandered across. Like everyone else, I did know this guy. He got my phone number and called a lot and emailed non stop for awhile. High pressured sales pitches don’t work well on me, maybe the only reason I didn’t try Burns. I probably wasted $500 or so dollars on scams once upon a time though. I think everyone does somewhere along the… Read more »
Christian
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Christian
6 months 8 days ago

Joe Trader is the only one I have met who is really a profitable trader.
If you can endure the DD you can make money with him.
http://openrangetrading.com/Results/Default

Rob B
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Rob B
6 months 13 days ago
I wanted to add one more thing. Prior to Emmett I would go to these Trading Rooms and see the same scam techniques I mentioned above being used again and again. Yet you go to a room like GTR and there are just shill after shill saying how they are hitting it out of the park day after day. And worst you search for a review about one of these scam trading rooms and again post after post how great the room is. And even worst than that you have con men like Dean Handley writing articles saying how you… Read more »
JT
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JT
6 months 12 days ago
Agree with allmost everything. Emmet is doing a great service exposing this sad blood sucking industry. I even agree with a prior post from a user that suggests for him to start writting this stuff in some major public exposure and i have no doubt that one day he will have to do it. I don´t know Emmet intentions with this site (i suspect that first he was looking for a true educational trading site/room so that he could profit with it… just like we all are looking for it) but the way this going i guess it has to… Read more »
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Mike
6 months 13 days ago
From Forex Peace Army: Hi, Recently I wrote a letter to Barry Burns considering of his course “The Top Dog Trading”. Below is this letter and response to it. I will leave opinion to you… My letter; Original Message —————- Subject: Re: Independent Reviews of Top Dog Trading From: krzysztofhang@gmail.com Dear Sir, What I want is you live trading. I mean live trading….. very next or any chosen day the market opens up. Not chosen charts, trend set ups etc… I would love to experience your skills in action. Another words its been said “Put up or ……… up” I… Read more »
ElaineMDG
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ElaineMDG
6 months 13 days ago

LMAO!! “Loud barking chihuahua”!! (No offense to real chihuahuas!) that sells real snake oil!! This guy takes the cake, so to speak!!

david S.
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david S.
6 months 9 days ago

I would recommend to anyone who has purchased any products from any scam artists
to post their PDFs and videos, or Ebooks(basically all their garbage) all over around the web for free.,,,teach them a good lesson! let them get a taste of their own medicine.
and email them the link of their BS.

Marcello
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Marcello
6 months 3 days ago

Great idea of posting courses in public so that others can evaluate the garbage they sell and also have others provide evaluations. It would be great to have one location where they could all be published. Any suggestions on where to post them? I have a zip file ready!

Stray Dog
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Stray Dog
6 months 3 days ago

“Great idea of posting courses in public so that others can evaluate the garbage they sell” Evaluating the garbage that they sell is what review sites like this one are for. Sharing these courses would breach copyright laws and as tempting as it would be it shouldn’t be encouraged.

david S.
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david S.
6 months 1 day ago

copyright laws do not apply to these kind of people….scam artists can go after a victim for selling them fake goods, after getting exposed by the victim?
anyways how would the find out anonymous posts? it will make their life very difficult it will make them do the materials all over with different names again and again….plus this site has exposed lots of sites but they are still doing business, might not be putting big enough dent.

Stray Dog
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Stray Dog
6 months 1 day ago
Copyright laws do apply to scam artists. It is possible to embed information into course material that details who the course was sold to. That information can be stripped away if you have the knowledge and software but it can also be used to show the vendor who is breaking copyright by sharing their product. It’s unlikely that Barry has done this with his course but it’s a possibility. IMO, it’s better to spread the word about scam artists and direct people considering their product back to these pages than to get down in the mud with them.
Rich
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Rich
6 months 9 days ago

Actually that might be a good way to stop some of them!

sam
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sam
6 months 8 days ago

Hey Emmet, where is the info leading to Barry Burns as the seller of “sunbright” and “sunset” HGH tonics? The site liquidhealthproducts seems to just refer to a couple named “Wayne and Gerri” of San Diego. Is this a fake couple and background invented by Burns or are they in cahoots with Barry? Just curious how you found the connection.

DavidR
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DavidR
5 months 28 days ago

Another guy that has been around a long time is John Carter. Would be interested to see one of these on John Carter. I’ve never used his stuff before, but it seems like he has done a little of everything over the years.

sam
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sam
5 months 28 days ago
Absolutely, John Carter is one of those legacy “traders” who has built a tradeducaton affiliate empire now. I took his $67 “trial” room and all it was mostly bad option trades where the losing results were never reported. Other than that it was just an ad room for education products and recorded seminars costing hundreds to thousands more. Often John Carter wasn’t in the room and “fibqueen” Borodin was there. The room usually had 300 to up to 1500 members. In light of WarriorTrading’s room numbers, in hindsight I wonder how many were dummy fake generated members. I think the… Read more »
sam
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sam
5 months 15 days ago
So here I was looking over this charlatan’s site, and I couldn’t believe there were still articles on the site back since 2008! when I had my confession that I got first fooled by this snake oil fraudster. Check out these articles and have a good laugh. http://www.topdogtrading.com/floor-traders-emini-day-trading-dow-futures-commodities-and-forex-part-2/ “What I found as I participated in the night life of Chicago was that many of the waiters and bar tenders there were current or former “floor traders!” That really shocked me. Most of them failed miserably, not unlike most retail traders around the country (and world).” Like he’s an “authority” on… Read more »
Daniel
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Daniel
4 months 23 days ago

Son of a …. This was my second swindle that I purchased. I never got through any of the courses because in the first one (if I remember correctly) he talked about himself and how his life experience led to trading. There was too much talk and zero trading so I stopped and never continued the course. I still have the courses in my email. He would send out links to each course.

sam
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sam
3 months 3 days ago
Yep, he never did trade. I went through his basic and sequel course then tried his five “energies” on sim. Basically it was just 4 lagging typical indicators and using a second chart as a higher time frame. All stuff which is free to find on the web. He did a few recorded webinars where he supposedly made trades and they were all scalp losers he called “scratches”. Looking back, it was a total sham and I felt embarrassed I was so clueless about these scams. He probably hasn’t had a live account for decades. Some of the best snake… Read more »
Elaine Edwards
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3 months 4 days ago
For training with a real Ph.D. in Finance, see Dr. Scott Brown at the University of Puerto Rico. He offers some great inexpensive trading training on the Udemy site, supports his students with a weekly hangout to discuss the markets and our questions. The Udemy courses do require concentration, yet he is always available to clarify and assist. How about a review here of the “real deal” like Doc Brown? He has shared his actual trading accounts with a group of us for years. He trains masters students for Wall Street as well as the rest of us on Main… Read more »
Stray Dog
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Stray Dog
3 months 3 days ago
Oh please … Some of Dr. Scott Brown’s other courses on offer at Udemy. . Juice Cleansing for Weight Loss, Intestine and Liver Repair! Break food craving cycles while repairing your intestinal tract and resting your liver with super nutrition weight loss. Make a Living Teaching Online — Get Your First Academic Job! This course teaches you how to recycle that valuable graduate degree for household income that helps pay everyday bills! Make Amazing Free Viral Graphics for Facebook & Social Media Using free photo and image design sites to create stunning images for your websites amazing your friends and… Read more »
Rob B
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Rob B
3 months 3 days ago

Peddling a Udemy course in the middle of a Top Dog review. Give me a break with this meaningless advertisement. If you want him reviewed put in that thread.

sam
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sam
2 months 21 days ago

lol! Barry Burn’s earlier “trading” history /w mustache. Even joined a “futures talk radio” group “moderating” the close. The moneyshow.com profile doesn’t mention topdog at all. Buying all three scamming “optionetics” courses?? Along with AdvancedGET. Must have cost a hefty upwards fee of 25k+ if I recall the pricing back then.
http://www.moneyshow.com/expert/9b096adcab494455a5d3dcd3c7a6f53b/barry-burns/
http://www.futurestalk.net/modburns.htm
http://www.futurestalk.net/schedule.htm
Compared “topdog” Burns. http://www.topdogtrading.com/about/

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