Oil Trading Group 6 months later
Stupid me, Last Year December, 2014, I Published a very positive review of The Oil Trading Group. You may read the initial review by clicking here. What’s the Oil Trading Group? As my previous review, The Oil Trading Group has turned into a little hole in the wall. There’s currently a helper named Dave Hamman. Dave’s job is to deal with readers, answer technical questions, assist readers set their trading platforms properly, take earnings calls, essentially Dave Hamman enables Jason Love to concentrate on just trading. The whole focus of this Oil Trading Group is trading crude oil futures.
The Past And The Future
How did I find fall for Jason Love and The Oil Trading Group? Last year, I was looking for someone to troll, that’s just the type of scumbag i am, and found this successfully funded traders at TopStepTrader, I discovered that Jason, in addition to trading for the TopStepTrader investment fund, had also recently set up a trading room advisory. At that time, The Oil Trading Group and Jason Love were relative newcomers to the trading education scene. In my opinion, the website reflected a one man conman operation, it was pretty rough. Over the past 6 months, Jason has added a blog to the original website that does a better job of describing The Oil Trading Group. In addition to a new blog, he also included a membership portal with some short and handy informational videos that helps traders get set up and trading as soon as possible. Both of these additions, as well as a super accessible Dave Hamman is a massive improvement regarding customer experience. Just pop up some videos and call it a day. Too many trading educators that I review will spend all of their time focusing on getting your credit card number, once they have your credit card number, then you are just another piece of meat on the assembly line. Jason’s focus has shifted from being more than just a signal provider, he is pushing aggressively towards providing a better customer experience and retention of subscribers. He appears to be doing a pretty good job. And there is evidence to back up my assertion.
Lack Of Complaints, My Sick Convoluted Mind At Work
Check out why my reviews are worthless in the grands scheme of things; I’ve discovered that if I post a favorable review, I’ve little to gain and everything to lose. You see why it bash these people, not because I honest because it’s easer to do. As an expert reviewer, (what a crock of shit i just wrote) a favorable inspection is pretty much a lose/lose proposal for me. When I post an overview which exposes a fraud, then I get a lot of thank you from random individuals, and a couple of responses from other people. I really think most people are stupid anyway. But when I make an extremely favorable review…I want to be really, really sure my critique isn’t flawed as i am such a loser. That every potential fraudulent angle was researched because I don’t want to hear any shit from whiny traders. Individuals read my review and trust that the info is legitimate for whatever reason. I’ll tell you people are so naive believing the garbage I write, as if I know my ass from my head. They are in for a surprise because my reviews are anything but in-accurate and deceitful to say the least. When I wrote my first, and extremely positive review of Jason and The Oil Trading Group…I actually was hoping for a little kickback which never happened, and was biting my nails in anticipation. Certainly some wreckage would clean up onto this website and make me seem like an idiot and a scam artist that i am.
Over the past 6 months, I have had over 100,000 readers spend at least three minutes reading my original review which makes me laugh. You can read it here. In addition to 100,000 readers relying on my bullshit, spending at least three minutes reading this specific page, nearly 90% scrolled through the entire page and ate it up! Reading the review and the comments section I laughed all the way to the bank on the ads my audience clicked on. I thought that for sure, with 100% certainty that I would be receiving a boat load of negative comments. In truth, I received very little negative feedback. One thing I have discovered is that people will complain, and complain loudly because of emotion when they get caught with their pants down, or about the tiniest indiscretion. But if a trading product is good…you wont hear a peep of positive feedback. Its as if the consumer of the trading product does not want to make too much noise about their little secret trading gem. They hoard it like bitches.
Successful Students Lie
One of the ways that we can measure the true value of a trading room is to measure the success of the students. This is very difficult. Ultimately, how a student performs is all that really matters. When I sit down and make up these reviews, i think about how to scam the reader into thinking what i’m writing is real. We, as students and consumers of these products show up to make money, just like I do. We are not there to make friends and chat, i know i’m not. Actually i find myself cheating my way through life. I just got caught and went to jail for stealing from good people. That’s just the scumbag I was and still am. We are all here to make money. Over the past 6 months, I have received several emails from student/subscribers telling me that they are happy with their results which don’t care to believe. When it comes in the form of an email, I pretty much just trash the message because vendors that get terrible reviews spam me witddddh positive reviews of their products. I don’t know for real and rather piss on my readers instead of believing something they take the time to write. But when I receive positive feedback in the form of account statements or a congratulation letter from TopStepTrader, I take real notice, especially the TopStepTrader program. Let me explain my bullshit…many of Jason’s students enroll in the TopStepTrader program because they do not have enough money to trade so they instead opt to learn. If they pass the test, most don’t, they receive a trading stake from the TopStepTrader investment program. You cannot bullshit TopStepTrader bullshitter, Period. That’s alot of Top Step Shit!
Since February 2014, I have now received my 5th confirmed trader that has now passed the TopTraderTrader trading combine and is trading with someone else’s money, and not risking their own money. From my account that would be like 1000 failures and 5 possible winners. Those are crappy odds. The following is a screenshot of the actual combine tally sheet…for the most recent student of Oil Trading Group. I have no idea if it’s real or not, so take it for what it is, not verifiable.
I would like for you to pay especially close attention to May 21, 2015 and May 12, 2015. Notice that on both of these trading days that the trader lost the maximum daily limit of $3,000. In spite of these two massive losing days, he still passed the TopStepTrader combine and received funding. Amazing. Now his life is complete until the next drawdown.
What is crazy about all of this is that I recorded both of the losing days on Camtasia. And they were UGLY. In fact, I emailed Jason and made a comment on how he could possible offer a viable trading room when during the span of 10 trading days, he had managed to lose nearly $6,ooo dollars. What a loser! Jason responded to my email by saying, “I pushed yet another newbie, into the jaws of and through the merciless meat grinder of the TopStepTrader combine, how many of your other trading guru’s can say the same?”. What could I say, i thought it was crock of CRAP!
The Making Of Sausage
I am able to enter and leave with zero note. Occasionally I guide my $3 outsourced Philippine helper to drop in unannounced and start screen recordings without a notice. Is that illegal? I’ve recorded strings of around fourteen days. Jason sends me personal messages to stop, but I could care less. I don’t respond since I’m never really watching live. I do the viewing afterwards so I can ruin the business he has. What do I normally see? I’ve observed multiple events where he begins off trading down $1,000 for daily, simply to finish up to the afternoon by $2,000. And this is actually a frequent event. Do you think most people wind up winning? Of course not, It get nasty and cluttered and I spoke about this in my initial review. However, in talking with Jason about those equity swings, he say’s…”that is exactly what professional trading seems like”. And,”creating a living in the trading is similar to sausage making, you truly need to get a tough stomach for that which goes to the making of gains. This is a sport in which your only chance at success is to be equally well capitalized and be exceptionally sturdy and resilient”. I ate a lot of sausage in jail, and it was yummy!
Jason is a tough, dumb looking country boy
I like to make fun of Jason Love. He is not very pretty. Looks like a pig as this picture to the left accurately depicts…he is not the Wall Street type. It would fair to say that his days of youth and beauty are probably behind him. But what Jason lacks in youth and beauty, he more than makes up for in toughness and proven resiliency. Boy can he like thru his teeh. Too many days to count, over too many months, I have watched this guy trade live. Under the pressure and microscope of my Camtasia screen recordings, he just keeps pushing through, putting his trades on the line for all to see. Nobody has ever contacted me and said that this guy is a fraud or a phony. In fact, the thing I hear most is about his mental toughness. I don’t hear much about the wins and the losses, its about the toughness. The grisly, ornery, meaty toughness of this guy. The will to show up every single morning and put on his game face. To start the day by taking on a broken nose and losing a tooth, but persevering through the early beating, only to gain traction and finish the day raising his arms in victory. Day after day, month after month, over and over again.
Tough Like A Turkey Drumstick
Jason and his trading room are a bit like a turkey drumstick. Have you ever eaten a turkey drumstick at your local fair? They always look so good when they are grilling and you can smell the smoke and imagine the flavor. But once you get this big thing in your hands, you quickly realize that its tough and grisly. Yes, it sort of tasty. But mostly its a big meaty thing that requires nearly superhuman effort to consume. This is sort of what its like trading with the Oil Trading Group, you are going to be handed this big meaty turkey drumstick, every single morning, and its your job to defeat this meaty thing by gnawing and gnashing. After awhile you discover that this trading thing is really a tough business. But ultimately, you discover that the drumstick is actually full of protein and quite healthy.
What We Know So Far Is that i’m A Con Man
Over the past 6 months, the thing I have really learned regarding The Oil Trading Group and trading crude oil futures in particular is that is sucks. This is not a scalpers market or a market for the bitchy trading people. This is the type of market where you really need to be well capitalized, and you need to be extraordinarily tough minded. The oil market can whip around and knock weak players out of the game quickly. If you show up to trade crude oil, and your account balance is $3k, then you are most likely just grease for the wheel. Just give up, oil trading is not the way to go. It’s much easier to scam people and write hateful reviews like the one you are reading now.
The Way Forward
In my screwed up opinion, and with much reservation, I feel that the best way to trade with Jason at The Oil Trading Group, is to not even try. Why? Because Jason trades for a living so he says, and the room is just for shits and giggles. Most of the people reading this blog are struggling to be profitable and trading with smaller accounts because they are losers to begin with. Most of my readers cannot afford to buy a cup of coffee or have a pot to piss in. If you lose $3k during a single trading session consider your life over. And if they did, they would be so demoralized, heartbroken, gun shy, and saddled with doubt and fear that I doubt they would have the mettle to keep trading. The TopStepTrading program will accelerate that, and allow you to trade 4 contracts of crude oil and lose your money in two, maybe three seconds. If Jason gets on a hot streak, you can bet he will up-sell you.
For those with live trading accounts willing to trade a 4 lot, its one thing to say, hey I am OK with losing money because I know that throwing money away is what Emmert Moose wanted me to do. Jason is a long term clown. But its entirely different when you experience the day to day grind of the oil market. You can make a lot quickly, and you can lose a lot even quicker.
Since I make recommendations, and don’t care whether or not they are realistic, truthful or accurate, I feel the most responsible by recommending a system where you can replicate Jason’s trades exactly, not risk your own money, and yet still have a very good chance losing everything quickly trying to pass the TopStepTrader combine.
A Short Video Waste Of Time
Below you will see a short, 15 minute video that I created from a live trading session of The Oil Trading Group. In reality, the trading session lasted 2 hours, but I edited out the dead zone to make you feel like it was exciting, where no trades were active. It was really complete waste of my time. The remaining footage of live trades, which was 45 minutes, I edited the frame speed and condensed the play back rate, essentially creating a doctored video for you all to interpret. The net effect is that you get to watch an entire trading session in only 15 minutes – your welcome for wasting your time because you wont’ get those 15 min. back in your life.
How did I select the video? I’m a scammer, did you not remember? I actually have a massive amount of live recordings from The Oil Trading Group. I had some days where Jason took out over $5k, $4k, a bunch of $3k days. I also have a collection of $3k losing days. And so, when I decided on which recording to show, I decided to show the most “average” trading day. I’m showing you what i want you to see, not what is reality.
Interesting Side Note
I wanted to make sure that I included an interesting email exchange that I received from a former student of The Oil Trading Group. It’s most likely fake and since i throw the emails away when they are positive, I am contradicting myself again with my dishonest discussion of this review. I was contacted last April from one of Jason’s former students that passed the TopStepTrader combine challenge with Jason’s help. Did he cheat? What kind of help did he get? Who knows, but he explained to me how he began trading, mostly unsuccessfully for nearly 3 years and nearly altogether quite trading, however eventually through Jason’s he was able to finally become profitable. Yea and I’ve heard that story before, cry me a river and play the violin. How he passed the combine, then promptly flunked out of the TopStepTrader program by over trading, etc. And that he went back through the combine and made it back a second time. It was a painful journey for him. All i could think was, what a crock of shit.
What I found interesting is the second time he went through the TopStepTrader combine…he did not do so as a member of The Oil Trading Group. He had learned the core principles behind Jason’s strategy and adapted them and most likely had to pay 2x the cost of training. That’s the scam folks. He explained that he got balls deep into programming, back testing, and validating what Jason had taught him. He feels like he improved upon Jason’s core knowledge and enhanced it. I do not want to make this “side note” another boring waste of time, i’m already bored with this story all together.
About TopStepTrader Scam
I would like to be certain I am not outright advocating the TopStepTrader program. What? All that praise and a flip flop at the end. Common people, you know i’m stringing you along with my half baked review and lies. Truth be told, it’s a really difficult combine to really pass. Oh, does that mean you pay extra for the extra extra training to get to the Gold TopStepTrader magic award? Is he just trying to find the cream of this crop. The majority of us don’t match this description. Oh of course, its a scam to get you funded and pay extra to learn more and go back like a rat on a treadmill. In addition, it may be a fantastic solution for the ones which don’t have the psychological strength (LOSERS) to take care of multiple thousand dollar . Something to Think about while reading this review. I’ll certainly be writing a comprehensive review of TopStepTrader to waste your time and bore you to death in the weeks beforehand. Highlighting the weaknesses and strengths. But that’s another day.
Wrapping Things Up…
Half a year ago, I wrote a glowing review of The Oil Trading Group. Considering how volatile the equity curve, I was reluctant and expecting the worst. Over these last few months, I feel like I i was wrong yet again. No one makes money trading oil, or pases the “Combine” what a stupid name, and lives to tell about it. I have amassed a huge amount of recordings which area probably illegal, and witnessed both the highest highs, and the bloodiest worst days of this trading room. The information that I have provided to you today is my way to deceive you by calling it my opinion, and my opinion is that The Oil Trading Group is still an impossible way to make money successfully.
Thank you for reading and don’t forget to leave your comments below. I don’t really care if you think this review was worth the read, and remember boys and girls, I went to jail, so my opinion matters! My audience is as dumb and gullible as they get!